52 Ancestors – Week 4 Curious

The minute I saw this prompt Alice in Wonderland popped into my mind, I had no idea what I should talk about. I have been mulling it over since the beginning of the week.

I decided to tell you about a couple of relatives that have me in somewhat of a genealogical quandry and I am quite curious about.

First let’s discuss John Daby, who happens to be my 4th great grandfather on my maternal grandfather’s side.

John Daby was born in approximately 1782 possibly in Massachusetts.

In 1801 he married Olive Bolton in Shirley, Middlesex County, Massachusetts.

In 1810 census, he appears in Windham County Vermont in the town Andover.

In 1830, 1840 & 1850 he appears on the United States Census in Jay, Essex County, NY.

John appears on the 1860 United States Mortality Schedule for Jay Essex County, New York. He died in June of 1859 of old age.

John is buried in the North Jay Cemetery in Jay, New York.

I have always thought that John’s parents were Joseph Daby (1748-1825) and Abigal Bennett (1748-1824). A cousin recently reached out to me and said that she was told by another researcher that his parents are a Samuel Darby (1759-1839) and Hepzibeth Wheeler (1762-1794) and no proof was given.

It could be possible though I am a tad doubtful after seeing that Samuel and Hepzibeth were married in December of 1782 and John was born in June of 1782. Also I and other of my close relatives have several DNA matches to descendants of Nathan Daby (1766-1836) who was a child of Joseph Daby and Abigal Bennett.

So this whole line now has me seriously baffled and curious as to what the truth is. I know I am going to have to brush up on some DNA skills and shrub out some trees to figure this all out.

The second thing that has me curious currently is the Italian side of my genealogy. This is kind of like researching my husbands family as I am flying blind and add in a language barrier and it is interesting to say the least.

Part of my family tree.

Right now I am focussing on my great grandmother Teresa Tracchia. I am going to start putting together my steps for my Research Like a Pro 14 day challenge which I am behind on but I want to follow through with the steps so I have the locality guide together as I think it will be helpful with future research. I am then going to go step by step and see if I can find her parents so I will have that set of 2X great grandparents complete. I also need to find out if anyone knows when she died.

A few months ago those sets of Great Great grandparents looked much different and I am happy to see the names beginning to flesh out. I have also been planning a little trip to the Bentonville Family History Center so I can tap into the Italian records they have there instead of using the Italian Website.

So these are the 2 things that have me super curious at the moment.

14 Day Research Like A Pro Mini Challenge

January 14, 2021 began a 14 Day Research Like a Pro Mini Challenge. I love these challenges because I use them to focus on lines I am uncomfortable searching like my husband’s Irish roots or this time I am working on my Italian Roots.

Searching my Italian roots ought to be fun because I do not read or write Italian and my genealogy books are all still in the garage in boxes. I really should move those things upstairs and get a desk so I can get back to work but I digress.

Day one was to come up with a research question and my original question was going to be when did my 2nd great grandmother Chiara Ludovico die but I know she died sometime after 1902 and the records for Chieti, Italy only go until 1900 so I figured that would be a very difficult task.

Last night I was poking around my tree trying to decide on a different question and I ran across her marriage record to my 2X great grandfather Michelangelo Moro. I found some one who was able to translate it on a facebook group and I now have the names of Chiara’s parents.

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Both of these translations gave me new information I did not have regarding both the groom and the bride. I now have the following questions and one may just become my research question for this mini- project.

  1. When did Domenico Moro die?
  2. Can I find birth records for Michelangelo Moro or Chiara Ludivico?
  3. Who are the parents of any of the parents listed?
  4. Can I find other records for any of the persons named here?

The other cool thing I found here is my Dad had mention San Salvo to me but we did not know where that fit in so now we do. Also we never knew that his Great-Grandmother was named Chiara before finding her on a ships Manifest in 1880. So this is going to be an interesting journey and while I like the Antenati website, I may take myself to a Family History Center to do this research as I will be able to save it on my computer easier and it is behind a wall. Thankfully the Family History Center is only about a 20 minute drive and has great hours.

So any ideas on which Italian Ancestor I should research next?

Elusive Ancestors…

That final ProGen assignment is done. I am taking a day or so before I jump into something new and I am procrastinating my final critiques of my peers. If you have been reading for a while you have probably learned that I like to procrastinate and I like rabbit holes.

While procrastinating that final ProGen assignment I did a deep dive into my Italian Ancestors (that right there should tell you how  much procrastination there was). I have been looking for the elusive last name of my 2X Great Grandmother on my Moro line.

If you read this Learned something new… post and you will see how I arrived to this place. I am not sure of the search terms I used to come up with this record but look what I found.

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My 2X Great Grandmother, Chiara DiLudovico and Concenzio Moro, my great uncle.

I need to do a bit more research as I know very little about when Aliens were held for special inquiry and I am hoping there are records. One thing that I love about European women is that they traveled under their maiden names.

I am searching for a class or an institute on Italian Genealogy because I think that is what I need to get further into the process, but I finally did it I found the maiden name.

My 2X great grandmother’s name was Chiara DiLudovico Moro and it explains how my grandmother got her name.

Learned something new…

Today, I watched a webinar entitled Long Distance Italian Genealogy from Shellee A. Morehead, PhD, CG that was on Legacy Family Tree Webinars.

My Dad and I had been talking about his family line and we know so little of anyone who was not in the United States. So after watching the webinar where I was introduced to a new website Antenati-Ancestors. It provides access to the Civil Records or Italy.

I have had a mystery of my 2X Great-Grandmother on my paternal-grandmother’s side (clear as mud I know). All I had was this passenger list where you could read the first name but What the heck was the last name and to top it off she is listed as a servant.

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Well thanks to today’s webinar and the Antenati website. I have begun to unravel the mystery of this line. The first thing I found was a birth record for Teresa Moro. teresamorob1876k===lentella

I will need to translate it so I understand everything but according to the passenger list I knew Teresa was born sometime around 1876 as she is 4 on the ship manifest. I also know this branch of my family is from Lentella, Chieti, Italy. Made the records a bit easier to go through. That and the index in the beginning of the book. I spotted Michelangelo Moro’s name right away. I also see reverence to a Chiara Lodosrio(possibly).

I could not find a birth record for Domenico Moro my Great Grandfather as that book did not have an index in the front of it so it will be the task of reading page by page. I did find marriage record for Domenico Moro and Teresa Tracchia, my great grandparents.

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They were married in 1886 and it again lists a Chiara Livordosio (again wonky spelling).

I figured let me see if I could find a marriage record for Michelangelo Moro and Chiara. This is what I found.

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They were married in 1872. I have to figure out how to get real copies as I could not figure out about ordering them and most Italian Records on Family Search require being at a Family History Center,

So if anyone can figure out the last name I would greatly appreciate it. I am just so excited to have found something new and I can see a lot of rabbit holes being gone down because of this.

Seriously comment below if you have a clue as to the last name.